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    Morgans Guide to Life

    oaueue YOU KNOW OF IT ANAS
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    Morgans Guide to Life

    today Christian tried making me say "oaueue" quickly 100 times. I didn't. But I heard Helig said it to him many times.
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  4. Give me an example of when it worked. So what if they voiced out their unhappiness over offclassing? Does that mean that the issue is the MOST disliked issue? Or is it because its more difficult to talk about the certain attitudes of players? You guys have banned players and reduced their bans to 3 days or more (a week etc). Can I ask if these bans can be justified? 'gilga', on 02 Nov 2013 - 12:06 PM, said: natapon : ban reduced to a week, spend this one week reading guides and improving your game. gilga in reply to nata : thanks nata, and btw Reason leave without getting a sub as medic i wasnt a medic that time, i was a soldier:/ name: Anonymous LINK to your steam id: STEAM_0:1:57816250 why you got banned: I got banned for saying ''no u'' to natapon when he said i was shit at roamer why you should be unbanned: I was pushing responsibility on the medic that it was his fault that he died and not mine, when it should have been my fault. Protato ballz is an actual friend of mine in real life and i meant no offense to him. I know i should not have rebutted at Natapon, as it was very disrespectful and i should accept all criticism, especially from an experienced player like him who is a veteran at TF2. I apologize for my mistakes and i will not repeat it again. name: protato steamid: potatoballz why you got banned: I got banned for going battlemedic in the last minute of the game and opposing natapon's banning of anonymous, who was in the same server why you should be unbanned: i was being stupid and was trying to rush the demo and failed. i really should have just stayed with the pocket and demo to heal them. i am really sorry for being stupid and i wont repeat this mistake again name: ZELR4R LINK to your steam id: 76561198073855904 why you got banned: I was playing as a subbed-in demo. I went afk for a while as it was really urgent, and I forgot to type in "!sub". At that time, there were lots of spectators that could have replaced me while I was afk, and it is my own fault I got banned. why you should be unbanned: I feel remorseful and I have learnt my lesson. I am really sorry that I disrupted the pug, and I do wish to play competitively again. name: SirLiony LINK to your steam id: http://steamcommunity.com/id/SirLiony/ why you got banned: Chatting too much. why you should be unbanned: Yes I do know that we are not allowed to spam, but I was enjoying myself too much until I forget the rules. I promise I won't spam a lot again. Ever since I firgure out why I was ban, I don't chat that much anymore. And without PUG, I felled very boring in TF2. I could not find any better PUG, because all others were empty and when it is not, it is super cancerous. 'Tr4in', on 08 Dec 2013 - 3:43 PM, said: Fuzz : Doesn't matter if your team is getting winning or losing 5-0; we expect players to fullfil their class roles in a serious fashion. Additionally, you've been banned for off-classing(among other things) a couple of times prior to this, so you're expected to be genuinely attempting to improve your image and reputation as a player. Going battle medic and off-classing to spy as medic shows a complete lack of respect for your opponents and disregard for our PuG rules. Your ban has been reduced to two weeks. Future bans for you will get exponentially longer, so maybe try avoid getting banned in the first place. http://steamcommunit...skrubbendoktor/ Steam ID: skrubbendoktor Why I got banned: I did not answer an admin (natapon) question. Why I should get unbanned: I promise to be more responsible, attentive and extremely polite and show greater amounts of respect towards admins and other players. Hey, would like to get this off me after finding out about my perma-ban delivered by admin Shounic on the 15th of December due to my leaving of a pug server without finding proper replacement. I would however like to explain on behalf of my uncalled leaving and would like to see this ban be removed if my reasons are seen to be valid. Name: DaLoneHuggable Link: http://steamcommunit...dalonehuggable/ Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:64794403 Why I got Banned: Leaving before a sub Why I should be Unbanned: - No specs in server (waited for around 10 minutes before disconnecting) - Teammates were informed of urgency before leaving, thus affording a realisation of my coming absence - This is however a practice I have seen done by many, and I however got perma-banned for doing it once? Justice please? Link to my Ban Protest: Not really sure what this is, enlightenment? Would appreciate if this could get sorted out as soon as possible. Thx again. The list goes on. "mistakes will happen, we're sorry" - doesn't seem like it to me when you extend their bans by 3 weeks/1 week/3 days. "The reason Fuzz is taking stats from i49 is because there was a cry for simple clear cut rules, and to be fair it does work to an extent. " - When has it worked and when has it backfired? You know more than this. Who has actually counted 8 MINS? Who enforces SCRIM and LEAGUE RULES into PUGS? If thats the case, change all PUG servers to SCRIM servers, serious business guys. And in response to the GREEN text that I've highlighted above. It seems to me that if you don't play your class properly you get banned too. My question is now this : what do YOU as an admin, want from them? The ban appeals seem to cry out : Treat admins like a god PUG is SCRIM No Specs? Okay I gotta apologize to the admins for having no specs in the server to sub me
  5. So my dear admin, if you are going to base your bans on the context given, with reference to the so called recent incident : This was what happened Cyrus got banned for offclassing more than 8mins, des and him were trolling each other and so des reported to fuzz. According to fuzz : You may note, however, that the most recent incident wasn't a case of close score-line, and the offender was running the off-class simply because he could afford to run 18 minutes of sniper and still win 4-1. There's also the fact that he was unbanned for a 1 week off-classing ban(valid complaint while I was in server myself) that very day, and was completely unremorseful about it when he found out his ban was effectively only 3 days as the earlier portion of it was while he was on vacation or something. Someone wishes to snipe, why does he have to care about the opposing team just because they are losing. He wishes to snipe because he wants to. They can't counter a sniper for 18 mins? Go learn how to. Its not his problem, its theirs. You told shounic that you checked the logs. Des played for 3 mins in the opposing team - refer below to what our admins have been doing and what you have been doing. I've kindly highlighted it in GREEN. Maybe its about time you reflect your own actions and stop being defensive 6:55 PM - esp. shounic: hi 6:55 PM - King and Lionheart: hi im back 6:55 PM - esp. shounic: so fuzz's story was different 6:55 PM - King and Lionheart: wassup 6:56 PM - esp. shounic: "Ok, first off, I checked the logs and saw that 1, destiny had played a few minutes in the match so his complaint was valid. 2, I also happened to see someone say something in the chat logs about cyrus off classing more than 8 minutes" 6:56 PM - esp. shounic: "Lastly, he was unbanned JUST the day before and was competition unremorseful" 6:56 PM - esp. shounic: "He had only actually received 3 ban days instead of a week for the previous ban where someone did complain and when he found out that it was 3 days effectively he was very amused Because he was on vacation during the ban" 6:56 PM - King and Lionheart: give me the logs of the match 6:56 PM - King and Lionheart: *pug "12:13 AM - Destiny™: yyyy u ignore meee 12:13 AM - cyrus.: i guilty 12:13 AM - Destiny™: 12:13 AM - Destiny™: kk i go ask fuzz 12:13 AM - cyrus.: 12:14 AM - cyrus.: okie ^_Z^ 12:14 AM - cyrus.: 12:28 AM - cyrus.: mercy plz :(" 6:56 PM - King and Lionheart: i think the chatlogs 6:56 PM - King and Lionheart: are good enough 6:57 PM - King and Lionheart: to show how they are trolling each other 7:09 PM - King and Lionheart: http://logs.tf/145004 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: again des is from opposing team 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: i think he only subbed for like a min 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: cause his damage is 1.3k 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: also he went sniper 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: if u look at chat 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: xX720M1GN0SC0P3Xx : offclass for more than 8 minutes!!! 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: this guy 7:10 PM - King and Lionheart: is Chongy' 7:11 PM - King and Lionheart: who types v trollish 7:11 PM - King and Lionheart: is a troll but a nice guy 7:11 PM - King and Lionheart: aka do not take his words srsly 7:11 PM - King and Lionheart: and lets say fuzz is talking abt this guy who made the comment 7:11 PM - King and Lionheart: he did 3.8k dmg 7:11 PM - King and Lionheart: and he went spy 7:11 PM - King and Lionheart: and he is a solly 7:12 PM - King and Lionheart: cyrus on the other hand did 8.4k 7:12 PM - King and Lionheart: and the guy making noise only has 11 kills 7:12 PM - King and Lionheart: cyrus has 34 7:13 PM - esp. shounic: i waiting fuzz reply. he atm in the group chat just say why he would not allow off-class 7:13 PM - esp. shounic: i tell him 7:13 PM - King and Lionheart: definitely a challenge to blu team aye 7:13 PM - esp. shounic: be relevant 7:14 PM - esp. shounic: ok 7:14 PM - esp. shounic: here it is 7:14 PM - esp. shounic: "Ok, joke agreed upon by everyone is fair enough, but destiny DID play 3-4 minutes in that game, on top of which cyrus was banned just the day before Unbanned* And like I said, he was completely unremorseful" 7:14 PM - esp. shounic: rebut? 7:14 PM - King and Lionheart: how is he completely unremorseful when NO ONE told him that he COULD NOT offclass? 7:14 PM - King and Lionheart: according to fuzz's guidelines of #1 7:14 PM - King and Lionheart: NO ONE made any noise 7:15 PM - King and Lionheart: according to you me and And : only teammates are allowed to make noise < this is what MOST of the admins are doing 7:15 PM - King and Lionheart: according to fuzz : ANYONE can report < this is what only you are doing 7:15 PM - King and Lionheart: so here it is WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY 7:15 PM - esp. shounic: well not only team mates, technically we also consider if other team complain but ok 7:15 PM - King and Lionheart: why should the other team be allowed to complain? 7:15 PM - King and Lionheart: lol 7:16 PM - esp. shounic: he argues that 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: the only ones who complain are the ones who find it hard to kill 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: is fuzz angry that his head has been taken off many times? 7:16 PM - esp. shounic: it should be considered but he won't accept if it's only enemy team 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: precisely 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: and where is des 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: he is IN....? 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: the OPPOSING team 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: he won't accept if it's only enemy team 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: ^ contradiction 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: only 7:16 PM - King and Lionheart: im looking at chat logs here 7:17 PM - esp. shounic: k wait 7:17 PM - King and Lionheart: no one from red team made any comment on "stop offclassing cyrus" 7:17 PM - esp. shounic: slow down 7:17 PM - esp. shounic: here's his previous reply 7:17 PM - esp. shounic: "And like I said, he was completely unremorseful He asked "Till when am I banned?" I replied "16th" He was like "lol, i was out till 13th"" 7:17 PM - King and Lionheart: im sorry but is fuzz bringing in past bans to justify his current ban? 7:17 PM - esp. shounic: nata suggesting public fist fight ah 7:17 PM - King and Lionheart: does it make any sense ? 7:19 PM - esp. shounic: nata also inputting >_> 7:19 PM - King and Lionheart: tell nata go back to his coding 7:19 PM - King and Lionheart: if he says he washes his hands off the community 7:19 PM - King and Lionheart: then stick by it 7:19 PM - King and Lionheart: his dodo head 7:20 PM - King and Lionheart: tekan his leg 7:21 PM - esp. shounic: they saying that des should be responsible for joke reports 7:21 PM - King and Lionheart: lol 7:21 PM - King and Lionheart: why are they defending themselves 7:21 PM - King and Lionheart: they made the mistake 7:21 PM - King and Lionheart: an action has already been carried out by fuzz 7:21 PM - King and Lionheart: review the rules and their own actions that what i suggest 7:21 PM - King and Lionheart: what say u shounic 7:22 PM - King and Lionheart: u think that admins should just be like "oh okay lets just take it out on the guy who made the report etcetc" and not reflect? 7:23 PM - esp. shounic: oaky 7:23 PM - esp. shounic: here's the settlement i asked them to go for 7:23 PM - esp. shounic: and they accept 7:23 PM - esp. shounic: If destiny wants cyrus banned for real, he must go report in thread 7:23 PM - esp. shounic: otherwise cyrus is okay 7:23 PM - esp. shounic: but they say this will be a mark on both their records 7:24 PM - esp. shounic: fuzz also say 7:24 PM - esp. shounic: amending rules Is your/"very best international TF2" 8 mins ban rule good? Write a report on the forums when actions have already been taken? Banning based on your so-called "reading the logs but failing to note who the players are". Are you sure you know the community and are doing whats best for them? The "100% heavy working really well" happened simply because the other team could not counter it without having an experienced, skilled sniper. < exaggeration. Also maybe you forgot in my case scenario, Sud's sniping did not work fully. ------------------------------------- Fuzz - How do we achieve those goals when potential new players don't want to give AsiaFortress PuGs a chance because of many issues; one being excessive off-classing? Or when relatively new players, such as the one mentioned in the above incident either become rampant off-classers themselves, or leave because there are no rules in place to maintain a certain level of quality in games? Just because there were no rules "in the good old days", everybody could do what they like and have fun doesn't mean we shouldn't expect a certain level of quality or strive towards it. An argument from tradition is no good argument at all. Do we want every AF PuG to emulate a Mokee's PuG with people off-classing on a whim? The answer as to why new players are unwilling to give AF PUGS a chance is because of the veteran players and some new players insulting them and are giving them a lot of pressure. For example : Cuteman, TEEHEE, wishwish, just to name a few. Guy named Wolo just joined a few days ago, mostly everyone in the game except for qwe and I, were saying how badly he sucked and how he is going to bring the team down. The issue with new players being reluctant to join is not over offclassing but the ATTITUDE of our current players. If you've played often you'd know so do not simply add in offclassing to justify it as an obstacle that hinders the growth of AF. Educate rather than restrain. When there were no rules in the past, we've had the best teams - H2H, Vco , AUR by far (UNTIL TODAY). Whilst everyone had their fun, they also had productivity in learning the class and had a great skill level. KungfuPanda : best 30mins spy player in PUGS (you don't know him you aren't in the community yet) - killed everything and sapped a sentry until a player's computer crashed. Bigfoot : accurate pyro with no fear, was able to push the opposing team back to their mid from his team's last, reflecting rockets and killing those who'd dare shoot at him. Newer gen : Qjyap : strong and v fat heavy, could hold mid and aid in team pushes for a long time in most maps, most memorable map was snakewater when I was against him. Kiwi, t2, shrlck : their sniping, have you seen it? Everyone is dodging like mad when they see them. You've stripped off players' creativity and instilled fear of getting banned amongst the players - maybe this is your answer as to why the skill level never grows. Mokee's pug is different from AF's pug, no comparison should be made - btw, I enjoyed mokee's pug even though its bad sometimes because their admins know what fun is (making Ry4n's head really huge so that its easy to snipe him yeeeee that was funny). ---------------------------------------- Fuzz - The time limit rule will be increased to a maximum of 33% per map We are not going to bother on the retarded time limit rule. ---------------------------------------- Lastly, why should we model our community after another? Again, the comparisons you've made are way too far fetched to even be made. Our community is small, if population is small, growth is small, learning curve is gentler. Their community have THOUSANDS of players (maybe more than that), MANY teams (whilst we only have 5 atm) and hence a greater potential for professional players. On a personal level, yeah they're our role models, go improve and be as good as them. On a community level, you can't do that. Your comparisons in the first 2 paragraphs are based on scrims and teams rather than pugs. I'll end it with a quote from our very own skillful crossbow medic with regards to i49 10:35 AM - Destiny™: u sniff their toes also cant sniff
  6. u've gotta PM natapon on your opinion (he rarely reads forums busy with many stuffs ahem), its quite a good one.
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    180114 SAVE THE DATE

    fight fight fight fight!
  8. I'll type this here because no one replied me on the admin forums. Please reconsider your following guidelines for #2 : because its quite ridiculous (no one is going to count and its not effective) #3 : if there is a need to be thorough, include an entire list of possible sniping/heavy to mid - warmfront coldfront obscure badlands snakewater ETC. Also, I disagree that the only maps viable for offclassing (SNIPER/HEAVY) are gullywash/process. C'mon you are a veteran, I don't have to say anything more. *do not just focus on snipers/heavy. what abt other classes? It seems to me that you are just frustrated with certain players. Like I said, if there is a need to be, IF, be as precise as possible. *#1 was decided by the community not by our admins. If the community has spoken, we should support it not protect it (or spoonfeed) by adding more redundant "guidelines". It was your fault in the first place for failing to note what they've chosen. As a result, you ban without giving warnings, making players confused as to what the rule really is, causing this whole hooha abt not being black and white. If you make players apologise for offclassing then please apologise for being unprofessional. All of the "GUIDELINES" above seem to clash with each other. *Played process last night Opposing team ran a heavy for the entire 30 mins - it worked REALLY WELL for them My team used their brains to counter the heavy by having sud run sniper, didn't work sometimes, its OK, my roamer went scout, Sud continued to try sniping the heavy down. 2 scouts, 1 sniper, 1 pocket, 1 demo 1 med. IT WORKED. And we played with the newer players who were happy to take on the challenge. Many other instances where offclassing worked but I don't have to list it all down. tl;dr : remove #2 and #3 and enforce on #1. When the community is given a chance to speak up, let them do so. Offclassing has and will always lie in the grey areas of TF2. Whatever you are trying to do to minimize it is ineffective. INEFFECTIVE. INEFFECTIVE.
  9. how come whatever i type cant appear on forums
  10. I comms in game even if no one replies me (forever alone I geddit) but whats interesting is that even if u comms alone there are people who would listen to you or reply you (by typing). I think what is more challenging is to hear for shots etc and then assist whenever/locate team. Take it as though u r playing in a LAN. I dunno, its v difficult to enforce mumble so instead of making this compulsory within the community, I'd rather you challenge yourself to listen to in game sounds, watch the kill feed (your roamer/scout goes down you should instantly know that there has been a leak or a certain area they are guarding has been compromised) and play accordingly. Game awareness will improve as well.
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    Black Friday / Cyber Monday

    OH GAMING STUFFS AH. I thought shopping for clothes... so I was thinking of what dresses to get from asos etc. Sorreh too much ovaries
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    Black Friday / Cyber Monday

    ben, from what website?
  13. Consult gene on how to make it better : ORDLOORDLOORDLOORDLO
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    Ban Appeals

    Ban has been removed
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    Ban Appeals

    Hi all, I do not see your bans at all in http://asiafortress.mooo.com/sb/index.php?p=banlist , kindly link your bans from that page to me. thanks
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    overedited but HOLY SHIT WHAT

    i love how the rest just looks at fuzz LOL like bird watching
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    Engineering Guide

    great initiative
  18. This is a list of active teams which are open to scrims from SEPTEMBER 2013 onwards. This list is merely here to help teams find other teams to scrim. This is NOT a registration list for AFL or any tournament whatsoever. Team leaders post only in the following format. Name: Country: Steam Group: Skill Level: Availability: Weeklies: Contacts: Other Info: No discussion in this thread. Just information. Fill in all details. Other Info may be left empty.
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    Ban Appeals

    acknowledged, unbanned
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    Ban Appeals

    Noted. Unbanned
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    Ban Appeals

    Your ban has been removed.
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