AFL2 Tournament Format?

[spammah 103]

Which tournament format would you prefer for AFL2?

 

All tournament formats are explained here - http://asiafortress.com/thread-8.html

 

A) Double Elimination

Round Robin Single Group

C) Round Robin 2 Divisions

D) Swiss-system format

 

I personally suggest Round Robin Single Group since everyone gets to play everyone.

 

A) Double Elimination

Teams (unseeded) are randomly thrown into double elimination brackets with maps chosen by the teams themselves with a bit of admin intervention and progress until the end. This format takes the least time but can lead to highly unfair matches etc.

 

Round Robin Single Group

All teams are thrown into ONE SINGLE GROUP where every team plays each other in a league-style format with Rounds Won/Lost/Drawn being taken into account. Maps will have to be decided by teams (or possibly admins). Possibly 2 maps for each match. Top X teams then proceed to Double Elimination or Knockout format (Best of there or five) where they proceed until the end. This format takes the most amount of dedication and ample amount of time (still doable IMHO.).

 

C) Round Robin 2 Divisions

Teams are randomly thrown into two groups (A & where they play each other in their relative group. Top X teams from Group A and Group B advance to Playoffs (Double Elimination or Knockout Style format) with best of three or five maps until the end. This format sits in the middle of A) and as far as time is concerned. However, it's still segregated. Teams will only get to play about 3/4th of all the other teams in the whole tournament.

 

D) Basically, this system is a mix between the single-elimination format and round robin. It allows a clear winner to be determined in the least number of rounds which would be ideal for AFL2 if theres an overwhelming number of teams. Since spammah personally prefers round robin single group, this is probably be the format that will save the most time and be fair to all teams. There is a "rating" system of how well the teams fare which can go like +0 for a lose, +1 for a draw, +2 or +3 for a win (this can be changed to suit the tournament).The first round of pairings either goes by random or some method that allows teams of similiar standards to be paired with each other. In the subsequent rounds, teams are paired with other teams which have the similiar "rating". (as shown in wikipedia article).

 

There are other advantages too, no one in the tournament needs to be eliminated and each team proceeds to the next round even if they win, draw or lose. Since it is similiar to round robin, each team will have a final rating that can show the relative strength of the teams. A strong team which loses early in double/single elimination format to stronger teams may have a very low rank in that format, but in Swiss pairings, a strong team in the same situation can go on to be a finalist of a higher rank that is more accurate in comparing the relative strength of teams.

 

Assuming that AFL2 has 16 teams. If there are no draws allowed, it takes only 4 rounds to have one team with a perfect final standing of 4 wins, 0 lose. If draws are allowed, there will be 5 rounds to determine the final champion. Since there will more teams with similiar scores in the middle, tie breaking methods can be used to give a more accurate relative rank if needed.

 

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament

Detailed stuff: http://scichess.org/faq/swiss.html

[cleric 3]

Please get your votes in if you have an opinion. We need to get rolling scheduling matches soon.

[spammah 103]

I've updated and reset all the poll votes. Please read up on the suggested swiss-system format and re-vote when you've made a final decision.

[cleric 3]

Swiss system: For a total of 16 teams (assuming we can get 16 teams). Each team will only play 4 matches (5 if there is a tie) at which point a clear winner can already be decided without playoffs and finals. IMO, it's too few games actually. Given the amount of scrimming that takes place every night, I feel we can play 2 scrims a week. The swiss system means its approximately 1 game every 2 weeks. Up to you guys to decide based on what you feel you can commit.

[bigfoot 4]

Round robin single group takes a minimum or 15 rounds doesn't it (for 16 teams)? For swiss pairings the admins can come up with more rounds than the minimum of 4 or 5 rounds to get more accurate rankings.

[ding 2]

Swiss pairing sounds fantastic.

[spammah 103]

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[cleric 3]

Round robin single group takes a minimum or 15 rounds doesn't it (for 16 teams)? For swiss pairings the admins can come up with more rounds than the minimum of 4 or 5 rounds to get more accurate rankings.

 

Yes..you are correct. Round robin requires 15 matches to be played per team. Because the tournament is scheduled to run for 2+ months, this means 7 or 8 matches a month and 2 matches a week. After 2 months, we will hold a few more games for finals (not all teams will be playing)

 

Swiss pairings require 4 or 5 rounds no finals are necessary. Admins can come up with more rounds but this will only be for those that make it into the finals. Those that do not make it into the finals will be playing 4 or 5 matches over a period of 2+months, which means 0.5 matches a week.

[nekome 0]

i think there are few teams for division.

[adsf 1]

Crap I voted wrongly, I want swissssssssssssss

[spammah 103]

Current votes now stand at:

 

Round Robin Single Group: 20 votes

 

Round Robin 2 Divisions: 2 votes

 

Swiss-system style: 9 votes

 

Vote ends Thursday March 25th.

[ch3rry 7]

Is there a way to change what you voted for?

[spammah 103]

Nope. What do you wanna change it to though?

[thelousy 3]

Polls are closed in accordance to dateline.