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end up half my team gonna ditch after masters damn you portal 2 !!! Maybe it's a good thing that the prize was Portal' date=' or else some of us might never have decided to join. I just feel that maybe, the competition should hold a quota of pugs before they allow a team to join in future, although it sounds troublesome. I feel that maybe having teams play PUGs at least 3 times before joining might allow them to prepare themselves, and save them the hassle of dropping out or disbanding midway after the team cracks under pressure, since they could use the games to gauge readiness. Just my two cents, hope it makes sense. [/quote'] I think the onus should be on the team to decide whether or not to take part in a competition. we can't play nanny to every team, and make sure they're all in shape for a competition.

okay, Boot Comp sounds like a good name for such an event. anyone got any ideas for the low-level server? Or are we all fine with Asiafortress Academy?

same same. mouse accel razer something mousepad you play with mouse accel? isn't that supposedly not good for aiming?

even the name asiafort academy? we're completely open to suggestions

keep the suggestions and feedback coming guys, we'll listen as it stands, i think the most logical rule is to ban players who are able to steamroll games, to keep the games as stress-free as possible for newer players. all players are allowed to join the vet-level PUG anytime they want, but newbies are advised that they do so at risk of getting flamed, trolled, raged at, etc. if and when this happens, we're counting on you pubbers (there are very few who frequent these forums unfortunately ) to help spread the word!

confirmed, thanks

Yeah, we know, Asiafortress has been pretty dead for the past few seasons. But we're trying to get things revived, with a bunch of new admins and ideas This is your chance to be part of the action! Asiafortress needs people who know Photoshop/GIMP/Paint.net/whatever to help us design a new logo! It doesn't need to be overly complicated, all we need is something with the name Asiafortress in it. Heck, it doesn't even need to look TF2 related, it just needs to look nice! If chosen, your logo will be placed in a bunch of high-profile TF2 Community sites, such as the MGE website and Vanilla TF2. If you'd like to submit a design, simply post a link to your logo in this thread, or if you're a bit more shy, you could always give the link to any of the admins in Steam chat. It's that simple, you don't even need to commit or anything Asiafortress also needs people to help work on the new website design. Yep, there is indeed a new design for the website in the works, but it's not going any further since we don't have enough expertise with this field. If you know anything about web design, please approach any of the admins! (That's me, nata, benny or thelousy) It's time to step up and help out if you wanna get this community together guys Remember, we'll only get anywhere if we've got your support.

[align=center]Match Fixtures for Sunday, 21st August Teams are reminded that all Round 5 & 6 matches must be finished by today.[/align] Cataclysmic vs Spanish Sausages cp_badlands koth_viaduct Spanish Sausages forfeits, Cataclysmic Wins Masterful vs Spanish Sausages koth_viaduct cp_gullywash Spanish Sausages forfeits, Masterful Wins Extreme Revolution² vs Missing in Action cp_gullywash: Extreme Revolution² 1 - 4 Missing in Action koth_viaduct: Extreme Revolution² 0 - 3 Missing in Action Missing in Action Wins Derp Crew vs Masterful cp_badlands: Derp Crew 0 - 5 Masterful koth_viaduct: Derp Crew 0 - 4 Masterful Masterful Wins Nefarious.TF2 vs TROLLS cp_freight_final: Nefarious.TF2 5 - 0 TROLLS cp_gullywash_pro: Nefarious.TF2 5 - 0 TROLLS Nefarious.TF2 Wins Again, team leaders are kindly reminded to keep the match threads updated. It's really tough to provide coverage on the matches when we don't know when the match is going to be held Asiafortress is not an official medium for the TF2 Masters Tournament; we merely provide coverage and publicity Any queries you might have regarding the tournament should not be posted in our forums as we're in no position to address any of them. Instead, you should write a ticket over at support.e-clubmalaysia.com.

what was masterful's map pick?

Match Fixtures for Saturday, 20th August Match Fixtures for Saturday, 20th August PlayAndEnjoy vs Cataclysmic cp_gullywash: PlayAndEnjoy 0 - 5 Cataclysmic cp_freight: PlayAndEnjoy 0 - 4 Cataclysmic Cataclysmic Wins Fifth Company vs Derp Crew cp_freight: Fifth Company 5 - 0 Derp Crew koth_viaduct: Fifth Company 4 - 0 Derp Crew Fifth Company Wins

i think flare's ideas are good, and probably the most implementable i've seen in this thread. hopefully we should be able to do this around the conclusion of TF2 Masters.

hola senor

im quite in agreement with flare; we don't need to restrict it so much. logically speaking, newer players should embrace this opportunity to start pugging in a less stressful atmosphere. we'd only need to prevent higher level players from ruining the experience from them. so that's that. seems like the more pressing issue is how to let players transit from the lower level to higher level. i think the recommendation thing sounds a bit too formal; the idealist in me would like to believe that low level pug players wouldn't prematurely go into the vet-pug before they're well and truly ready, but i don't know whether that would actually be the case. my preference would be to keep in unrestricted again, players may transit anytime they want, but at their own risk of being raged at/stomped on, etc. publicity-wise, since someone asked, it shouldn't be a problem. for starters, we could have the event i mentioned earlier, and publicise with everyone spamming binds in pub servers or something. possibly get the e-club admins to put a poster on the server MOTDs. with enough support from our community, publicity shouldnt be a problem.

giving up tf2 for this http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/518729

[align=center]Match Fixtures for Sunday, 14th August Teams are reminded that all Round 3 & 4 matches must be completed by today. [/align] Nefarious vs Spanish Sausages cp_obscure: Nefarious 5 - 0 Spanish Sausages koth_viaduct: Nefarious 4 - 0 Spanish Sausages Nefarious Wins Masterful vs PlayAndEnjoy cp_freight: Masterful 3 - 2 PlayAndEnjoy koth_viaduct: Masterful 4 - 0 PlayAndEnjoy Masterful Wins TROLLS vs Derp Crew koth_viaduct: TROLLS 4 - 0 Derp Crew cp_freight: TROLLS 5 - 0 Derp Crew TROLLS Wins Fifth Company vs Masterful koth_viaduct: Fifth Company 4 - 0 Masterful cp_granary: Fifth Company 5 - 0 Masterful Fifth Company Wins Missing in Action vs Cataclysmic cp_obscure: Missing in Action 0 - 5 Cataclysmic cp_freight: Missing in Action 0 - 5 Cataclysmic Cataclysmic Wins We'd also like to apologise for the lack of coverage for the following completed matches: Spanish Sausages vs PlayAndEnjoy cp_granary: Spanish Sausages 0 - 5 PlayAndEnjoy koth_viaduct: Spanish Sausages 0 - 4 PlayAndEnjoy PlayAndEnjoy Wins Derp Crew vs Extreme Revolution² cp_granary: Derp Crew 0 - 5 Extreme Revolution² koth_viaduct: Derp Crew 0 - 4 Extreme Revolution² Extreme Revolution² Wins Missing in Action vs TROLLS cp_granary: Missing in Action 5 - 0 TROLLS cp_coldfront: Missing in Action 5 - 3 TROLLS Missing in Action Wins Extreme Revolution² vs Fifth Company koth_viaduct: Extreme Revolution² 0 - 4 Fifth Company cp_freight: Extreme Revolution² 2 - 4 Fifth Company Fifth Company Wins Team leaders are kindly reminded to keep the match threads updated. It's really tough to provide coverage on the matches when we don't know when the match is going to be held Asiafortress is not an official medium for the TF2 Masters Tournament; we merely provide coverage and publicity Any queries you might have regarding the tournament should not be posted in our forums as we're in no position to address any of them. Instead, you should write a ticket over at support.e-clubmalaysia.com.

what's going on with this match guys?????

again, a reminder for everyone who's posted in this thread: if you've found a team, or decided not to play anymore, or whatever, please REMOVE YOUR POST FROM THIS THREAD, or just say "FOUND A TEAM :D" and the mods will help you remove your post.

i dont think that having 2 different pugs will make it harder to start pugs; in the first place, these 2 servers are supposed to cater to 2 different groups of people. the current pug regulars should be frequenting the "vet-level pug" anyway, and shouldn't even be bothering with the "entry-level pug". (we need better names than these lol) if anything, it'll help the vet-level pug get more people in the long run, as people graduate from the low level and move up to vet level. the larger issue at hand, i believe, is the categorisation of veteran and newbie players. even now, there are some pug players who i feel should be allowed to play in the entry-level pug, simply because the current pugs are somewhat beyond them. we can't judge people based on time played, because time played =/= skill level. ideally, we should be differentiating between the 2 based on experience, or skill. again, this is hard because you can't tangibly measure skill. moreover, trying to use "skill level" as a distinguishing factor would reinforce the discrimination against newbie players, since they'd be regarded to be of "lower skill". i personally feel that this is how it should work: only players newer to pugging should be allowed in the lower level server (we'll call it a different name). honestly, everyone should know themselves; if you're top fragging or stomping everyone in current pugs, or at the least doing reasonably well, then you know you dont belong in the lower level server. for some people, who are still pretty new to the scene but have been pugging a few times, they should be given the benefit of the doubt and be allowed to play in the low level server, unless they do too well and stomp everyone there. how do we reinforce this? we'll need admins to come to the server from time to time, preferably check everytime there's a pug going on. presently, players can use the votekick system if there's a vet player trying to dick around in the low level server. low-level players should be allowed to move up to the vet-level anytime they want; it's their choice, really, if they want to get rolled and raged at by the more temperamental players in the vet-pug. in fact, i think the bigger problem is low-level players trying to stick around in the low-level server more than they should. for this, we'll need to remind them that they're not going to get any better playing with newbies, and we should be helping to assimilate them into the vet-level pug. one more thing: if and hopefully when this thing takes off, we should have a one-day mentoring event, catering only to people who have never pugged before, and who would like to. maybe have everyone in a mumble + server, teach them basic things like rollouts, pushing and pulling, etc. and of course, conduct a few pugs for these players with the mentors spec-ing and giving advice in mumble. i'd be glad to coordinate this once the wrinkles in this plan have been ironed out; ideally, this should be done right after masters, maybe in mid september.

This thread is specially created for newer players to raise any questions they might have about the competitive scene, and our community. You might have read our Guide to Getting Started in 6v6; if there are any clarifications you wish to seek, please do so here. Please avoid trolling and starting flame wars here; remember, we were all newbies once. And most of all, don't be afraid to ask questions! Frequently Asked Questions Frequently Asked Questions Q: How do you create your own room in the Starhub E-Club mumble? A: Yes you can create your own room. 1) Join the mumble channel 2) Right click your name, and register yourself 3) In the starhub/e-club mumble channel, around the top, there's a main channel called "General", which has many sub channels beneath it. 4) Right click it and click "add". Then proceed to type in your channel name. 5) If you want to set a password, right-click your channel name and click "Edit". You'll be able to set a password. 6) Good to go!! http://i.imgur.com/WGbTx.jpg[/img] If you have a channel password, how can your friends join? - Tell your friends to join the starhub e-club mumble channel, and select in order: Server > Access Tokens > Add Let them type in the password there, and they can join! Join a room by drag-and-drop your own name or double click the channel name.

yeah, a bit of error in benny's post; you set the password by rightclicking on the channel name (that you made) and click "Edit". That gives you the option to set a password.

Hai, moved to off-topic. i use a razer deathadder (3500dpi), which i got as a birthday present :D i love how gorgeous it looks, with the glowing logo and everything (yeah im a sucker for this kinda thing) One thing i dont like is the plastic part of the mouse though, it just sorta feels like cheap flimsy plastic (even though it's not). The plastic part also tends to get damn greasy after awhile cos my hands sweat alot during games... before that i used some 20 dollar mouse so getting a real gaming mouse felt really great and helped up my game

what benny said. we indeed have been considering putting this in place for awhile now. but, there are a lot of foreseeable problems with the execution of this initiative. primarily, we probably would have some experienced players who wanna come in (maybe pretending to be f2p players) and ruin the low-level pugs because they can and because they have nothing better to do. sure, we could moderate and just kick these people who are there just to dominate everyone else. second, and i think the bigger problem, is this: how do we differentiate between the 2 levels? who do we let into the lower level pug and who do we ban? sure, people who've never pugged before, definitely. but how long do we let people play in the lower level pug, before we tell them that it's time they moved into the higher one? 1 game? 4 games? 20 games? and what if they still haven't improved enough? and lastly, there's definitely going to be some form of discrimination against these newer players by the more experienced players. don't deny it, you know it's characteristic of our community to hate on newbies and people who aren't very good at the game. we'd love to have more people join us in pugs, and maybe form scrim teams, so we could actually get healthy participation in tournaments, but that's not going to happen if everyone keeps thinking that our community needs to be exclusive and "for pros only". don't get me wrong, we'd really love for this to happen; as a matter of fact this idea has been tossed around for months now, just that nothing's been actualised yet, i wonder why hmmm.... if anyone's got any ideas or suggestions to make this happen, please, by all means, tell us. with your help, we could make this actually happen and succeed.

fuck i gave up after level 5 or something

point taken. and no, not from ozfort i think. it's by that Sirlin guy bran linked to in his post