natapon

I'm looking for a demo mentor.

A demo is here

https://www.dropbox....nal_red_blu.dem

this is your 1st post, nobody knows who you are because you did not introduce yourself. no details were given about the demo. was it a match/scrim? what was the level of play? also, it would be good to zip/7z the demo before uploading to save time.

As a medic

#1. When playing pugs, stay with demo/pocket, don't rush out as battlemedic.

#2. If roamer jumps too slowly during rollout, screw him and continue forward to heal pocket

#3. Keep the heals on the pocket and demo most of the time, heal roamer only if he's really low or needs to jump. Buff scouts to go in

#4. Pop don't drop

I have learned the etiquette required when playing in AFL Pugs and the different roles of each class, when to offclass and when to not, and that even though the roamer's job is not to pocket the medic, but when the medic is in need of help any available classes must help.

bans reduced to 1 week. i hope this helps.

Yes, i have read the guides in the mentor section and understood what i have to do in the future. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Same here, the guides were really useful!

what have you two applied from the guides?

name: Anonymous

LINK to your steam id: STEAM_0:1:57816250

why you got banned: I got banned for saying ''no u'' to natapon when he said i was shit at roamer

why you should be unbanned: I was pushing responsibility on the medic that it was his fault that he died and not mine, when it should have been my fault. Protato ballz is an actual friend of mine in real life and i meant no offense to him. I know i should not have rebutted at Natapon, as it was very disrespectful and i should accept all criticism, especially from an experienced player like him who is a veteran at TF2. I apologize for my mistakes and i will not repeat it again.

name: protato

steamid: potatoballz

why you got banned: I got banned for going battlemedic in the last minute of the game and opposing natapon's banning of anonymous, who was in the same server

why you should be unbanned: i was being stupid and was trying to rush the demo and failed. i really should have just stayed with the pocket and demo to heal them. i am really sorry for being stupid and i wont repeat this mistake again

Read the guides in the mentor section, know the pug etiquettes.

http://asiafortress....complete-guide/

http://asiafortress....-and-mentoring/

You shouldn't jump straight into pugs without knowing what to expect and what is expected of you. When you understand these expectations, I will reduce your ban.

some of us are pretty busy recently, just keep the demos coming (POV demos please) and we'll review them in due time

momma cherri says it best:

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : their sniping so zai

c001k1d : the insom guy

c001k1d : but he so arrogant

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : where got lol

MOMMA CHERRI'S : hes saying it as it is

c001k1d : that match

MOMMA CHERRI'S : you guys play like retards

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : hmm yea

c001k1d : he ask why summer play so bad

MOMMA CHERRI'S : lets just say

MOMMA CHERRI'S : aside from pugs

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : he was 230 ping but he still did 10k dmg gotta give it to him

MOMMA CHERRI'S : we would never play along side players like protato

(TEAM) MOMMA CHERRI'S : .ss

MOMMA CHERRI'S : give them any ping and they would still rape u guys

MOMMA CHERRI'S : its not a ping issue

c001k1d : yeeah

MOMMA CHERRI'S : its a brain issue

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : who was that guy anyway

MOMMA CHERRI'S : unknown players

MOMMA CHERRI'S : probably intermediate

MOMMA CHERRI'S : most of you guys wont even make open

c001k1d : well

c001k1d : i havent improved

c001k1d : ever lol

MOMMA CHERRI'S : you guys simply dont improve

MOMMA CHERRI'S : and do you know why?

c001k1d : nope

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : suspense

MOMMA CHERRI'S : go read up the forums

c001k1d : well i sorta just play for fun

c001k1d : i read cutemans

c001k1d : thingy

c001k1d : its quite true

c001k1d : soon

c001k1d : 2 weeks

c001k1d : ill be free

c001k1d : maybe ill get a mentor

MOMMA CHERRI'S : dont tell me

MOMMA CHERRI'S : go do it

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : man, wish i could improve haha

c001k1d : u did what

MOMMA CHERRI'S : and what are you doing to get there?

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : no time to commit tho

MOMMA CHERRI'S : is it that hard

MOMMA CHERRI'S : to record a demo

MOMMA CHERRI'S : submit

MOMMA CHERRI'S : ask for review?

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : can the demo be from stv

MOMMA CHERRI'S : or ask for a mentor to sit in mumble with you while you pug

MOMMA CHERRI'S : and watch you

MOMMA CHERRI'S : POV demos

MOMMA CHERRI'S : stv demos dont capture everything

c001k1d : but i wanna improve my dm first

c001k1d : before my game sense

MOMMA CHERRI'S : you havent even read any guides

MOMMA CHERRI'S : your basics are not even there

MOMMA CHERRI'S : i bet your tf2 is not even setup properly

c001k1d : probably not

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : i wish i at least improved from the time i got rated

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : aha

MOMMA CHERRI'S : PROBABLY?

MOMMA CHERRI'S : then its NOT

MOMMA CHERRI'S : go and READ

MOMMA CHERRI'S : EVERY

MOMMA CHERRI'S : GUIDE

MOMMA CHERRI'S : in the FORUMS

MOMMA CHERRI'S : cuz i see the ratings

MOMMA CHERRI'S : i see all the locals getting destroyed

c001k1d : well to think ive been playing tf2 for quite a while

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : what really sets us apart from other countries, i mean

c001k1d : i would at least get a grasp

c001k1d : but i dont have any

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : yea, why do the players here play the way they do

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : aw silence

MOMMA CHERRI'S : why dont you ask in the forums

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : hmm i will

MOMMA CHERRI'S : they will provide better answers

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : for discussion again

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : xD

MOMMA CHERRI'S : i cant have the answer to everything

MOMMA CHERRI'S : discussions are good

MOMMA CHERRI'S : get these new players

MOMMA CHERRI'S : to discuss

MOMMA CHERRI'S : and interact

c001k1d : well to me

c001k1d : i dont wanna go to the forums

c001k1d : cause most of the people there hate me

c001k1d : not sure why

MOMMA CHERRI'S : then find out why

MOMMA CHERRI'S : you gonna let them hate you forever?

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : i realise that af forum always lead away from the topic and instead turns to ad hominem fights

MOMMA CHERRI'S : just cuz they see something in you that they dont liek?

c001k1d : im not even sure

c001k1d : i guess

c001k1d : ill go

MOMMA CHERRI'S : thats the problem with the current generation of kids

MOMMA CHERRI'S : we have to spoonfeed you everything

MOMMA CHERRI'S : when we first started out in tf2

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : protato

MOMMA CHERRI'S : we had to learn everything

MOMMA CHERRI'S : ourselves

MOMMA CHERRI'S : rocket jumps

MOMMA CHERRI'S : sticky jumps

MOMMA CHERRI'S : now you have all these tutorials

MOMMA CHERRI'S : videos

MOMMA CHERRI'S : its fucking spoonfeeding

MOMMA CHERRI'S : and yet there are players that cant aim properly

MOMMA CHERRI'S : move properly

MOMMA CHERRI'S : have 75 fov

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : were there people like these in the old pugs

MOMMA CHERRI'S : a lot less

MOMMA CHERRI'S : they were a minority

MOMMA CHERRI'S : now they are a majority

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : i remembered the very first pug

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : i went to

c001k1d : i dont

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : got invited by saki, went in, and before the game even started, got shitraged

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : hahaha

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : he told me, go in, i'll guide u, and then he dc-ed and im left in the unknown

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : that was back when i didnt even know af existed

MOMMA CHERRI'S : imma post this in the forums

MOMMA CHERRI'S : this chat log

MOMMA CHERRI'S : to get the discussion going

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : haha

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : haha

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : yea man

MOMMA CHERRI'S : continue there

MOMMA CHERRI'S : i dont hate anyone or anything

MOMMA CHERRI'S : but its fucking infuriating

MOMMA CHERRI'S : and fustrating

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : i feel u

MOMMA CHERRI'S : to play with some of these players

MOMMA CHERRI'S : you ask yourself, why are they here

MOMMA CHERRI'S : how did they end up here

MOMMA CHERRI'S : who brought them here

MOMMA CHERRI'S : 3 months later

MOMMA CHERRI'S : the same players

MOMMA CHERRI'S : same things

MOMMA CHERRI'S : same mistakes

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : i apologise for the games i made u infuriated

MOMMA CHERRI'S : some still playing with 75fov

MOMMA CHERRI'S : 100 sens

c001k1d : natas describing my gameplay

c001k1d :

c001k1d : instead of 3 months its 2 year

MOMMA CHERRI'S : well then do something about it

MOMMA CHERRI'S : we are all responsible for our own selves

MOMMA CHERRI'S : k im off, discuss in forums

Teddybär. #FreeMyInternet : peace

c001k1d : k bye

Name : gilga

Steam id : reikisubagyo

why you got banned : leaving a pug before there is a replace

why should be unbanned : i have to go really urgent that time, theres no spec. i should not have played a pug when i know i was going to go. for that i would like to apologize, i wont do that mistake again.

ban reduced to a week, spend this one week reading guides and improving your game.

mumble keeps the pug atmosphere lighter. the human voice will always be infinitely more influential than just cold hard text for it carries emotions beyond words.

I understand that the admins are important people and i have tarnished their name by doing so, therefore i am sincerely sorry for doing so, it will not be repeated

Your ban has been reduced to 1 week

we just hop into servers and play. find us at http://steamcommunity.com/groups/asiafortpug

updated, abeit very late.

name: John

steam id: 76561198046584244

why i got banned: offclassing

why i should be unbanned: I'm terribly sorry, there was a miscommunication. The team I was on was extremely disorganized, and because we were getting spawncamped, I thought switching to engineer would be a good defense. However, this did not stop the spawncamping and so I decided to continue offclassing in the hopes that I could bring some balance to the match and that someone could perhaps play my assigned class for the moment. Once again, I would like to apologize for my actions. I will not play any other class apart from my assigned one ever again.

Read the guides in the mentor section, know the pug etiquettes.

http://asiafortress....complete-guide/

http://asiafortress....-and-mentoring/

You shouldn't jump straight into pugs without knowing what to expect and what is expected of you. When you understand these expectations, I will reduce your ban.

name: R4G3

steam id:76561198070624322

why you got banned: Left the game after roll

why you should be unbanned: I tried to ask for sub but no one subbed me and I had to leave the game urgently so I disconnected. I understand what I did wrong and will not do so again.

If it is that urgent, then it is worth a 2 week ban. Nobody recalls being asked for a sub. Use !sub and wait to get replaced before leaving the server, don't let your problem become a team problem. Read the guides above. When you understand what is expected of you, I will reduce your ban.

name: Pearbombs

steam id: 76561198034400059

why you got banned: Impersonating spammer

why you should be unbanned: i was only playing a joke because i haven't played with spammer for a while and wanted to play a trick on him

You don't seem remorseful and still think your actions are justified, nor do you understand the weight the names of admins bear given their responsibilities. Until you show that you understand what you did was wrong, your ban will remain intact.

mixes hardly happen here. there are more pugs going on. which division did you play in ETF2L?

name: John

steam id: 76561198046584244

why i got banned: I have no idea.

why i should be unbanned: I can't answer until I know why I have beem banned.

Medic abandoning. John was assigned to medic but offclassed at tick 79400 thereabouts (after the score reached blue 2, red 4) onwards in the attached STV file. He did not return to the medic class for the remainder of the match.

It seems to me that many of the "mentees" have dissapeared after one question etc. As a mentee, it is your responsibility to engage your/the mentors. I don't expect my mentors to be having to chase you for demos/progress. Take interest in your own improvement/learning.

name: Azrax

steam id: 76561198048123031

why i got banned: leaving after roll

why i should get unbanned: I am sorry for my actions and won't do it again , will try to control my temper a bit more and will be helpful instead of ragy :/also I think everybody deserves a chance :3

ban reduced to 1 week. remember, i don't tolerate nonsense. take this 1 week leave to improve your tf2, from the basics. read guides, apply when appropriate.

- Zip your demos before uploading

- State the game type: scrim / decent pug where teams are balanced and playing properly

- Upload to a decent place where we can download quickly

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submissions missing any of the above will be ignored.

AsiaFortress Server Ban Appeals

Last updated 14th September 2015 by Caldoran

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Reason for ban³: I got banned for Medic Dodging because I disconnected after rolling and I found out I had to Medic. Because I didn't want to Medic, I left the server.
Why you should be unbanned: I understand now my actions were wrong, and I had killed the PUG. I have reread the rules and I promise not to break any more rules in the future.

i've lowered my standards when i come to pug to the point of catering to the standards in the pugs that were lowered by me. curry curry curry. grown tired of trying to push the pugs in the right direction. let the shit pugs begin... for now. eventually players will realize how little our local community has progressed as compared to our asian friends. if you want to see no government, look at the offclassing shitfest that mokees inbreeding house has become. tell me that the quality of players and pugs there are good and their new players have a chance at learning from the best we offer.

on another note, all my bans now are pbans. banned players can only appeal through these forums in official servers section. if you don't bother to appeal, i wont bother to unban. bannable offences include but are not limited to dodging medic, afk after committing to a pug, wasting time etc. don't let your unnecessary problems become everyone else's headache.

offclassing is so useful. i see people offclassing in mge servers. 1 v 1 sniper, 1 v 1 spy, 1 v 1 pyro, 1 v 1 heavy. i want to play mge in those servers against them so i can be more useful.

teams that have not yet to submit your nominations, please do so asap! team members in teams that have inactive leaders, let me know so that i can arrange for you guys.

No highlander league for asiafortress yet as we are currently tight on resources. If you are in HK, contact And, Halu or Shounic with regards to expanding the comp scene. We will always need more help.

Willing to train every fri sat and sun if possible. After nov 5 I can play everyday. Will give all my effort to train. Main is scout, second solly want to improve greatly on that. Thank you. 14 hours on scout and 40 hours on solly, mostly rocket jumping getting quite decent at it now.

Thank you.

What guides have you read and applied?