natapon 124 Report post Posted January 6, 2011 Only the following unlocks are ALLOWED. Unlocks NOT LISTED here are BANNED. Updated as of 27 July 2011 0407HRS +8GMT Scout x 2 Soldier x 2 Pyro x 1 Demoman x 1 Heavy x 1 Engineer x 1 Medic x 1 Blutsauger Kritzkrieg Übersaw Sniper x 1 Spy x 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arc 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2011 this is good news, cept the golden wrench one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kigbariom 6 Report post Posted January 18, 2011 Pain train banned? T_T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ratsyc 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2011 I think there's still quite alot of unlisted weapon and items. How about just list those that are allowed to be use, easier to reference that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfoot 4 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Pain train banned? T_T Exactly what i wanted to say, isn't the weapon somewhat balanced. Equalizer is more imbalanced then pain train, if pain train was banned then equalizer should probably have been banned too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer 180 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 IMO i think one pain train should be allowed, and for the demoman, because it's the class most vulnerable to scouts. I think it's a fair tradeoff for the extra cap speed, as with the paintrain the demoman can start backcaps (E.g Gran 2nd, Badlands spire), in exchange for increased vulnerability against scouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucket 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2011 Should ban Gunboats for a change too much bombing. :oni::oni::oni::oni::oni::oni::oni::oni::oni::oni: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haruhi 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2011 IMO i think one pain train should be allowed' date=' and for the demoman, because it's the class most vulnerable to scouts. I think it's a fair tradeoff for the extra cap speed, as with the paintrain the demoman can start backcaps (E.g Gran 2nd, Badlands spire), in exchange for increased vulnerability against scouts. [/quote'] last time i checked, the demo still can't dual wield. bummer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deliaren 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2011 last time you check urself in the doctor's office the doctor said you have a problem lifting your javelin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natapon 124 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 Classes/Unlocks have been updated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kigbariom 6 Report post Posted March 23, 2011 This is like the cinnamon style that ETF2L did for this year. I have to say, I don't agree with it. I think weapons like, The SR, Paintrain, Direct Hit, and many more should be allowed. In a normal game situation they don't provide an advantage and in most cases actually pose a disadvantage. When a team uses these weapons it is purely situational. These adaptations and tactics are what make TF2 such a deep competitive game. We shouldn't avoid the weapons that Valve puts in the game, we should make a list of acceptable weapons and learn to use them. In pugs and scrims I like to develop tactics that throw the other team off to give us a chance. Whether that means using the buff banner, the paintrain, or a number of different weapons. CEVO and ESEA in NA have a good list of banned and unbanned weapons that we should observe. It doesn't strip TF2 of all of the new weapons but still allows it to be balanced. We should at least keep discussion open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kushhh 22 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 i want my taaarge and eyelander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ding 2 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 less discussion will result in more doing. Talk so much in the end also wont be able to come up with a consensus anyway. just follow wat the admins decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 Yea thats so shitty that BlackBox isnt allowed but Holy mackerel is allowed even though its OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kigbariom 6 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 Great discussion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adelante 29 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 Huntsman/ Dead ringer/ Cloak and Dagger/ Charging Targe/ Sandvich/ Jarate/ Razorback banned? Wait, what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer 180 Report post Posted March 25, 2011 What happened to the unlocks we discussed about nata? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HaXxorIzed 17 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Sandvich and paintrain is the only unlocks I'd insist on adding. Utilities being run to deal with uber disadvantage is the correct way to play the game, rest are fine. Paintrain is also hardly a gamebreaker and some demomen like to run it to be cool. Let them be cool imo. A big list of items allowed and disallowed would be something to work towards though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natapon 124 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 well its time to learn to play the game without needing unlocks to cover up lack of skill so something as close to vanilla as possible would be better. gunboats and equalizer are still there for obvious reasons. bonk. Sandvich should be added i agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldblood 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2011 Cinq posted this whitelist, it has Med unlocks alongside Equalizer and Bonk. Pretty nice. Would be great if the whitelist can be uploaded to the StarHub servers - https://gist.github.com/888938 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kigbariom 6 Report post Posted March 28, 2011 I think it may be a mistake to exclude weapons. :S If you have a moment consider the opinions brought up in this video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natapon 124 Report post Posted July 26, 2011 unlock rules updated. future events may have additional unlocks allowed. for now the default rules are vanilla + medlocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Judas 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2011 Uber update weapons not allowed including deus ex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flare 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2011 hm in the interest of fairness and fun games for all i propose the most needed ban --> sticky launcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites