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    AsiaFortress Cup 11: Player Ban


    Teejay

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    After much investigation, consideration and discussion, the Administrators have concluded that player ‘momo’ for team ChaoticZ (CTZ) has been utilising hacks in Division 3, gaining an unfair advantage over enemy opponents.

    Sentence

    Under section 6B of the rules, this illegal action will result in a permanent league ban for the cheating player. Momo will no longer be allowed to participate in any future competitions, tournaments and events hosted by the league.

    Unfortunately, this means that all matches completed by CTZ have been overturned; an essential disqualification from the tournament. With CTZ removed from the competition, the Grand Final match for Division 3 shall be played between Teme Machines (TM) and Technical Difficulties (TDI).

    Furthermore, Team Remember Us (ReUs) shall be given the 3rd place medal, in light of two other teams being disqualified from playoffs. This is due to their 5th placing in the group stages.

    In summary
    CTZ has been ‘disqualified’, matches overturned
    ‘Momo’ has received a permanent league ban
    Division 3 Grand Finals between TM and TDI
    ReUs given 3rd place medal

    Conclusion
    The administrators would like to remind all league participants that AsiaFortress has a zero tolerance policy to the use of any and all cheats. All participants are subject to the rules, and must follow them in order to maintain the fun and fairness of the competition for all parties.

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    17 minutes ago, joe millen tan said:

    But is there concrete evidence to prove that momo is cheating?

    Hi this is the momo that has been banned as mentioned in the post. 

    Definitely I would accept the ban if the admins would upload evidence publicly to view and review. If there is anything that would make the admins feel that I am definitely cheating, I can understand and personally accept this ban.

    On the other hand, this is the administration's decision, and I am not sure if they would see my appeal to be valid because this is a cheating ban. I feel very upset for both my team and myself.

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    We do not accept the ban. Please show us enough evidence instead of just opinions of AFL admin.Thankyou

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    4 minutes ago, b10 said:

    Bring back Aza the hack detector and investigator

     

    if zazel is still actively playing I'd be real  hyped

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    I'm very sorry but I DO NOT ACCEPT THE BAN. This is non-sense if you just accuse of a good player cuz u think he is hacking. I would like to have a conversation face to face to admins to understand what your evidences are before you execute this ban. This is totally unfair.

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    1 minute ago, d3o said:

    I'm very sorry but I DO NOT ACCEPT THE BAN. This is non-sense if you just accuse of a good player cuz u think he is hacking. I would like to have a conversation face to face to admins to understand what your evidences are before you execute this ban. This is totally unfair.

    On the last ban of JLOSA the admins have shown the ip address evidence of the smurf accounts to their main accounts. However, this time, there is no evidence shwn and proven. I am not accepting the decision without any evidence told to us members. 

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    So i guess the BAN reason is

    Reason to ban player as hacker: After much investigation, consideration and discussion(Admins 'THOUGHT')

    Reason of not showing us evidence: No league shares the evidence of hacking

    Am i right?

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    4 minutes ago, Striker said:

    So i guess the BAN reason is

    Reason to ban player as hacker: After much investigation, consideration and discussion(Admins 'THOUGHT')

    Reason of not showing us evidence: No league shares the evidence of hacking

    Am i right?

    Apples just told me "apples: It's not your place to accept the decision or not. And also every league doesn't share the evidence of hacking. Very questionable answer.
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    4 hours ago, dribbler said:

    Ellie is always right.

    https://pugbans.shana.sg/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=momo&Submit=Search

    http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shanapugs/discussions/0/617328415062646778/?ctp=5#c144513152471415620

    The witness oblaa said "Its nonsense, headshot a scout and turned around 90 degrees scoping where u ended up killing el..."

    What's wrong with the teams in div3 this season  1x

    Ellie was the one that I appealed to and he agreed to unban me as long as I use my main (the one I use now) on shana from then on. I pursued this matter with Bolts from Shana last time.

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    4 hours ago, joe millen tan said:

    But is there concrete evidence to prove that momo is cheating?

    Based on our own judgement, the admin team and I believe the evidence we have is concrete.

    4 hours ago, Peach said:

    Hi this is the momo that has been banned as mentioned in the post. 

    Definitely I would accept the ban if the admins would upload evidence publicly to view and review. If there is anything that would make the admins feel that I am definitely cheating, I can understand and personally accept this ban.

    On the other hand, this is the administration's decision, and I am not sure if they would see my appeal to be valid because this is a cheating ban. I feel very upset for both my team and myself.

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    I'm sorry but we cannot make the evidence available to the public as we are worried hackers in the future will know what signs we're looking for and they'll try to avoid showing those signs which will make it harder for us to identify hackers.

    4 hours ago, Striker said:

    We do not accept the ban. Please show us enough evidence instead of just opinions of AFL admin.Thankyou

    Reasons stated above. 

    4 hours ago, Peach said:

    if zazel is still actively playing I'd be real  hyped

    He still actively plays MGE.

    2 hours ago, -ideknoo said:

    didnt open minds get fifth place in group stages and ReUs got sixth?
    http://asiafortresstf2.challonge.com/afc11_div3

    This season we're ranking teams based on map wins and ReUS has more map wins than open minds. ReUs has 8 and Open Minds has 7.

    Alright, so there was a forfeit map win that wasn't marked on challonge and with that map win Open Minds has 8.5 so they're in 5th place. Sorry, was our bad.
    It was stated here. However, next season we will be ranking teams by their wins, losses and ties.

    2 hours ago, d3o said:

    I'm very sorry but I DO NOT ACCEPT THE BAN. This is non-sense if you just accuse of a good player cuz u think he is hacking. I would like to have a conversation face to face to admins to understand what your evidences are before you execute this ban. This is totally unfair.

    We can't make the evidence available to the public. Reasons are stated above.

    2 hours ago, d3o said:

    On the last ban of JLOSA the admins have shown the ip address evidence of the smurf accounts to their main accounts. However, this time, there is no evidence shwn and proven. I am not accepting the decision without any evidence told to us members. 

    The reasons behind the two bans are completely different and they are not subject to the same treatment.

     

    Edit: We're looking into restarting the playoffs for division 3 if all the team leaders involved are willing to play it out again. CTZ will be allowed to continue the season without momo. So what the admin team and I have decided to overturn the CTZ vs TM game which makes TM one of the grand finalists. TechD will have to play against CTZ (without momo) in the lower bracket finals. Winner of this game will move onto the finals.

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    On 4/25/2017 at 4:23 PM, Justintayz12345 said:

    div 2 no drama smh

    THE MIGHTY SMURFERS XDDD

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    Could the Admins please PM each team member of CTZ and explain why momo is banned, and list out ticks of the shots that are suspicious to the admins. Does the Admins of Asiafortress not realize that communication can also affect how one person preaims or watches a sightline, Secondly, if the Admins have not realized, Momo has played CSGO to a very high level and at such a high level, crosshair placement to the head is very important. Is the transfer of skill from one game to another game not allowed in tf2? Thirdly, the flicks shots of the Player "Mel" during PUGs are also very suspicious, however why is there no investigations on such suspicious shots? Are Admins just being biased as they are hearing complaints of players complaining that "momo" is cheating and the pressure from them is too high as you are scared of losing a majority of your player base for Asian Competitive tf2.
    This is my opinion on this Issue feel free to answer or to ignore this.

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    On 4/28/2017 at 9:40 AM, Pronessf said:

    Could the Admins please PM each team member of CTZ and explain why momo is banned, and list out ticks of the shots that are suspicious to the admins. Does the Admins of Asiafortress not realize that communication can also affect how one person preaims or watches a sightline, Secondly, if the Admins have not realized, Momo has played CSGO to a very high level and at such a high level, crosshair placement to the head is very important. Is the transfer of skill from one game to another game not allowed in tf2? Thirdly, the flicks shots of the Player "Mel" during PUGs are also very suspicious, however why is there no investigations on such suspicious shots? Are Admins just being biased as they are hearing complaints of players complaining that "momo" is cheating and the pressure from them is too high as you are scared of losing a majority of your player base for Asian Competitive tf2.
    This is my opinion on this Issue feel free to answer or to ignore this.

    i have experience with hacks and "flick shots" are pretty easy to spot if you're a hacker but mel isn't hacking for sure (seen his lan gameplay). you should try lmaobox premium and experiment with how trigger bot and silent aim works to identify hackers more easily

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    is this thread to determine if mel hackin or momo hackin? L O L 

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